Graphene buds like the mx760 and **** PT15 have a more smooth and polished sound to it (the mx760 more than the PT15) , like they put the music through another mastering compression. some people would love them, while some people don't. i myself prefer a more raw sounding sound (less compression). the mx760 have a more exciting sound, but going them both, i might purchase the newer PT15 to see if they improved, because the PT15 has a more "small studio monitor" sound that i like.
i do not really understand what u mean by grapheney but the new graphenes have this plasticky digital sound.. the sound of feeling plastic and digital or artificial in nature , eg vs the "metallic analog sound of the EMX500. if thats what u mean to say ..
Ummm, Grapheney...yeah, sorry, not that descriptive huh? haha I don't think the Graphenes sound plasticky. If anything, a snare or cymbal crash kind of sounds a little like hitting those in a large concrete underpass. Sorry, my friends who had a band used to do this late at night in Hollywood just to hear the way a snare drum reverberated in a concrete tunnel. Not that popular a reference, but if you know what I mean, then you know what I mean. EMX 500, I would not describe as metallic like. Those are probably the most good "general sounding " buds out there in this price range. I think they sound like a 3 foot tall, paper-coned 3-way, Fisher home stereo speaker. The ones people used to drag to house parties with their home stereos before everyone knew a DJ. Like from the late 80's. A good set, that had to be borrowed from somebody's older brother.
in my opinion , the new graphenes because of their soundstage being a bit holographic and their mids and lows not being that fantastic in definition, things tend to sound a bit plastic and too much digital , or a bubbly effect to the drums and such sound.
I just got into a little bit of extra money thanks to Christmas, and I am wondering if the MoonDrop Liebeslied is comfortable. It looks great, but the fit seems kind of sketchy, like the Auglamour RX-1. I didn't like the fit on there where I just pushed it straight into the back of my ear, the ports to the skin, and there was no feeling of anything keeping it in place.
Normally, I might use a silicone over-ear hook, but the stem seems too long to wear over-ear like that.
People who own it, how happy are you with the fit?
I just got into a little bit of extra money thanks to Christmas, and I am wondering if the MoonDrop Liebeslied is comfortable. It looks great, but the fit seems kind of sketchy, like the Auglamour RX-1. I didn't like the fit on there where I just pushed it straight into the back of my ear, the ports to the skin, and there was no feeling of anything keeping it in place.
Normally, I might use a silicone over-ear hook, but the stem seems too long to wear over-ear like that.
People who own it, how happy are you with the fit?
When you're using the RX, is it uncomfortable because it's loose in your ears? To put it into description, the RX sits nicely in my ears, and in a more loosely snug feeling compared to the mx500 shell tipes.
I'm using the Liebesleid with hiegi full foams, it's more or less like the RX-1 in my ears, but the liebesleid is also heavier so it sits more stable. Also the liebesleid is not too prone to sound differences because of positioning, so even if it's loose, the sound is still quite full like when you push them a little deeper. Opposite to this is the VX Pro; a little shift and they will loose so much low end
Ummm, Grapheney...yeah, sorry, not that descriptive huh? haha I don't think the Graphenes sound plasticky. If anything, a snare or cymbal crash kind of sounds a little like hitting those in a large concrete underpass. Sorry, my friends who had a band used to do this late at night in Hollywood just to hear the way a snare drum reverberated in a concrete tunnel. Not that popular a reference, but if you know what I mean, then you know what I mean. EMX 500, I would not describe as metallic like. Those are probably the most good "general sounding " buds out there in this price range. I think they sound like a 3 foot tall, paper-coned 3-way, Fisher home stereo speaker. The ones people used to drag to house parties with their home stereos before everyone knew a DJ. Like from the late 80's. A good set, that had to be borrowed from somebody's older brother.
When you're using the RX, is it uncomfortable because it's loose in your ears? To put it into description, the RX sits nicely in my ears, and in a more loosely snug feeling compared to the mx500 shell tipes.
I'm using the Liebesleid with hiegi full foams, it's more or less like the RX-1 in my ears, but the liebesleid is also heavier so it sits more stable. Also the liebesleid is not too prone to sound differences because of positioning, so even if it's loose, the sound is still quite full like when you push them a little deeper. Opposite to this is the VX Pro; a little shift and they will loose so much low end
Yes, that is exactly it. They slide in and out as I move my head. They move less when I put foams, but the my ear gets itchy and hot where they grip. I also never know how far in I should put them in my ear (All the way in until it hits the wall of my ear, half way in, or barely touching...)
One of the big appeals of buds for me is that I can forget them more easily than IEMs, but I felt extrememly concious that they were in my ears (the RX1s). I don't know if I could get used to that, unless I add some inner ear hooks maybe like in the VE Ex-pack
Introduction
When ABnormal announced a budget earbud called the Duotres, I just had to try it. Never listened to an ABnormal earbud before but know of their reputation, especially what they did with the Diomnes.
I bought mine from a pre-order, but since the pre-order has already finished, there are only limited stocks. International buyers can purchase from rholupat.com and there are a few retailers located in Indonesia should you live there.
Build quality & accessories
Standard MX500 shells, cable is springy and tends to coil up. Blue aluminum case is a nice change from the usual clamshell style cases. There are 2 pair of foams, ABnormal suggest that no foams will give you a brighter sound, the gray foams will give heavier bass, and the blue foams will get you an all-rounder earbud.
For the purposes of this review, I chose donut foams as I felt they gave the best tonal balance out of all the foams I tested.
Bass
Bass is not lacking, it is mildly boosted so that it is not too bassy or too lean. Bass starts to roll off at 50Hz. From what I can tell, the bass is of good quality and well controlled.
Midrange
Clean sounding mids, in terms of tonality they are slightly north of neutral with the donuts adding a tinge of warmth. Some may find the mids a bit boring and they certainly are not as musical sounding compared to something like the DIY PK2. Resolution is good, they are not analytical by any means but there should be enough detail to satisfy most listeners. Also decent clarity, I did not notice much muddiness or veiled mids. Vocals could do with being positioned upfront a bit more so they can take center stage.
Treble
Treble is in line with the mids, not too recessed or too bright, just right for my ears. Not piercing or harsh, but staying crisp.
Soundstage
I found the soundstage to be only adequate in size, similar to what I hear on the Vido, not very wide but not narrow either, depth can be quite decent with a good recording. Despite the soundstage not being overly big, the music is at least coherent sounding and instrument separation is quite good. Of course it does have its limitations, depending on what you are listening to, there will be instances where the music will sound closed in. If you are coming from listening to IEMs or a closed portable on-ear, then maybe it is not such a big departure, but for those of us who like an open and airy sound may find the soundstage to be a little disappointing.
Final thoughts
I find the Duotres to be a competent performer, the SQ is actually quite good, just let down by the soundstage in my opinion.
I listen to mostly classical so my opinion is biased towards that, I feel that the Duotres is better suited for chamber works such as a string quartet, sonatas and so on. Anything orchestral driven like a concerto or a film score can sound decent but needs extra width to really shine.
For something more complex, using Mozart's Requiem as an example, the Duotres will struggle because we have a full orchestra, a choir and a handful of soloists all performing at the same time, the soundstage is neither large or airy enough to cope and is unable to do full justice to the recording.
To conclude, it does not get a big thumbs up from me but it isn't a bad purchase either. If you understand the limits of its soundstage and play the right music, it is quite a nice earbud.
Burn-in: 50hrs was required for me, out of the box they did not sound good, narrow soundstage, hollow mids, problems with the tonality and timbre. The tuning just did not sound right to my ears but after burn-in, the sound began to settle down and soundstage became a bit wider. I did further burn-in up to 80hrs but did not notice any significant changes.
Source: Xduoo X3 and Sony A35, Duotres is rated at 32 ohm so are easy to drive.